Comments on: Mike Florio Gets It http://noyam.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/mike-florio-gets-it/ I Am So Bored Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:07:53 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Adam http://noyam.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/mike-florio-gets-it/#comment-3294 Adam Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:15:06 +0000 http://noyam.wordpress.com/?p=656#comment-3294 Rob - I'm not saying the Packers owe him anything. I'm just saying I don't blame Favre for not wanting to retire, and I'm emphathetic towards his having second thoughts. I don't fault him for it. Rob – I’m not saying the Packers owe him anything. I’m just saying I don’t blame Favre for not wanting to retire, and I’m emphathetic towards his having second thoughts. I don’t fault him for it.

]]> By: Rob http://noyam.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/mike-florio-gets-it/#comment-3293 Rob Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:41:43 +0000 http://noyam.wordpress.com/?p=656#comment-3293 Adam, Had he committed to staying at the end of last season he would be GB's starter this year. He retired, they planned for a team w/out him and now he wants back in under his terms (as a starter). The decision to retire may be difficult but just decide already nothing changed other than the proximity to the season. I see how it's hard to retire and that's why guys play too long (so sad to see guys like Randy Johnson and Maddux pitch like crap) and I understand that emotion but the Packers owe him nothing more than his contractual rights and considering that he changes his mind every week they are in a difficult situation as well. They also have to be fair to Rodgers who has been having to endure this Favre roller coaster of indecision. Adam,

Had he committed to staying at the end of last season he would be GB’s starter this year. He retired, they planned for a team w/out him and now he wants back in under his terms (as a starter). The decision to retire may be difficult but just decide already nothing changed other than the proximity to the season. I see how it’s hard to retire and that’s why guys play too long (so sad to see guys like Randy Johnson and Maddux pitch like crap) and I understand that emotion but the Packers owe him nothing more than his contractual rights and considering that he changes his mind every week they are in a difficult situation as well. They also have to be fair to Rodgers who has been having to endure this Favre roller coaster of indecision.

]]> By: Adam http://noyam.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/mike-florio-gets-it/#comment-3289 Adam Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:18:10 +0000 http://noyam.wordpress.com/?p=656#comment-3289 I don't know, I'm much for sympathetic towards Favre. Retirement has so much finality to it; it means he'll never get to play competitive football again, the game he's been playing since he's a kid. If I were an aging superstar, I would totally hang on too long. If you love playing the game, why wouldn't you try to stay in the league for as long as possible? I don't blame him for having second-thoughts -- I know I would feel the same way. So, while I don't think he should strong-arm his way towards directing where he plays (although I think that you guys are reading way too much into his actions, putting it in much too negative a light), I don't blame him for petitioning the league for reinstatement. And I also don't think that he's being quite as pushy as he's been characterized here. I don’t know, I’m much for sympathetic towards Favre. Retirement has so much finality to it; it means he’ll never get to play competitive football again, the game he’s been playing since he’s a kid. If I were an aging superstar, I would totally hang on too long. If you love playing the game, why wouldn’t you try to stay in the league for as long as possible? I don’t blame him for having second-thoughts — I know I would feel the same way. So, while I don’t think he should strong-arm his way towards directing where he plays (although I think that you guys are reading way too much into his actions, putting it in much too negative a light), I don’t blame him for petitioning the league for reinstatement. And I also don’t think that he’s being quite as pushy as he’s been characterized here.

]]> By: Rob http://noyam.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/mike-florio-gets-it/#comment-3286 Rob Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:38:07 +0000 http://noyam.wordpress.com/?p=656#comment-3286 Bottom line is that GB doesn't want Favre as their second string - they want to be able to direct where he plays and they want to be compensated for releasing/trading him. Having signed him to a huge 10/yr deal they have guaranteed that right. As Noyam said he has no other leverage other than appealing to the fan base and the fact that he's been jerking them around (retire, unretire retire, unretire) makes me very unsympathetic to him. Also, I think GB wants to go w/Rodgers even if Favre would be better this year. I think it has to do with the "Ewing Effect" and the fact that they want to begin planning for the future. Bottom line is that GB doesn’t want Favre as their second string – they want to be able to direct where he plays and they want to be compensated for releasing/trading him. Having signed him to a huge 10/yr deal they have guaranteed that right. As Noyam said he has no other leverage other than appealing to the fan base and the fact that he’s been jerking them around (retire, unretire retire, unretire) makes me very unsympathetic to him.

Also, I think GB wants to go w/Rodgers even if Favre would be better this year. I think it has to do with the “Ewing Effect” and the fact that they want to begin planning for the future.

]]> By: mike http://noyam.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/mike-florio-gets-it/#comment-3285 mike Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:56:14 +0000 http://noyam.wordpress.com/?p=656#comment-3285 I thought he wanted to be told that he's the #1 guy by the team and not that he'd have to compete. And since he's Brett Favre, he feels that the Packers should accommodate him. My gut tells me that should he be released, he'll sign with a team that will tell him that he's "the man". As an aside, Kevin Everett being released was done to benefit Kevin Everett. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/13/AR2008051301023.html "By being placed on the team's waived/failed physical list, Everett can apply for an annual $224,000 disability payment and a one-time payment of $75,000 as part of the NFL's Player Health Reimbursement Plan. An injured player isn't eligible for medical benefits while on an active roster." I thought he wanted to be told that he’s the #1 guy by the team and not that he’d have to compete. And since he’s Brett Favre, he feels that the Packers should accommodate him. My gut tells me that should he be released, he’ll sign with a team that will tell him that he’s “the man”.

As an aside, Kevin Everett being released was done to benefit Kevin Everett.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/13/AR2008051301023.html

“By being placed on the team’s waived/failed physical list, Everett can apply for an annual $224,000 disability payment and a one-time payment of $75,000 as part of the NFL’s Player Health Reimbursement Plan. An injured player isn’t eligible for medical benefits while on an active roster.”

]]> By: noyam http://noyam.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/mike-florio-gets-it/#comment-3283 noyam Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:29:38 +0000 http://noyam.wordpress.com/?p=656#comment-3283 I don't know, but if he wants to be in GB, why's he insisting that the Packers release him? I don’t know, but if he wants to be in GB, why’s he insisting that the Packers release him?

]]> By: edge http://noyam.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/mike-florio-gets-it/#comment-3282 edge Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:52:42 +0000 http://noyam.wordpress.com/?p=656#comment-3282 You see, I don't think that's it. Why would he not want to be in GB? You see, I don’t think that’s it. Why would he not want to be in GB?

]]> By: noyam http://noyam.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/mike-florio-gets-it/#comment-3281 noyam Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:50:01 +0000 http://noyam.wordpress.com/?p=656#comment-3281 Yeah, I think that's the point. He just doesn't want to be in GB, and he's trying to pry himself out. It's a weasel move, and it's disingenuous that he's painting himself as the victim. Yeah, I think that’s the point. He just doesn’t want to be in GB, and he’s trying to pry himself out. It’s a weasel move, and it’s disingenuous that he’s painting himself as the victim.

]]> By: edge http://noyam.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/mike-florio-gets-it/#comment-3280 edge Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:34:39 +0000 http://noyam.wordpress.com/?p=656#comment-3280 If that's the case, does he really think he can't beat out Aaron Rodgers? Even if Rodgers played better than him, McCarthy would still be compelled to start Favre because of fan/media pressure. If that’s the case, does he really think he can’t beat out Aaron Rodgers? Even if Rodgers played better than him, McCarthy would still be compelled to start Favre because of fan/media pressure.

]]> By: noyam http://noyam.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/mike-florio-gets-it/#comment-3279 noyam Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:31:58 +0000 http://noyam.wordpress.com/?p=656#comment-3279 Edge- I don't think they told him he <i>can't</i>, I think they said it's not guaranteed, and that he'd have to play for the job. And even so, so what? EDS - that's fine, and I know that's the way in the NFL. But that doesn't address two points: 1) if he weren't a white QB, the media response would be totally different. See what happened to TO, Chad Johnson, Javon Walker and many others. 2) Favre can hold out and hold his breath all he wants. The Packers <i>don't want to cut him</i>, and he's insisting that they do. It's the opposite of what normally goes on. If he held out, they wouldn't have to pay him, and it would be like he's retired. They'd love that. He's insisting on showing up. They are saying "fine, but you'll be a backup" and he's throwing a hissy fit. The Packers are saying "you have a contract with us that we want you to honor. If you want to play, it'll be with us." And he wants to be cut loose. Why does he deserve that? He has no leverage, other than using fan goodwill and the media to make it look like he's the victim. And that's BS. Edge- I don’t think they told him he can’t, I think they said it’s not guaranteed, and that he’d have to play for the job. And even so, so what?

EDS – that’s fine, and I know that’s the way in the NFL. But that doesn’t address two points: 1) if he weren’t a white QB, the media response would be totally different. See what happened to TO, Chad Johnson, Javon Walker and many others. 2) Favre can hold out and hold his breath all he wants. The Packers don’t want to cut him, and he’s insisting that they do. It’s the opposite of what normally goes on. If he held out, they wouldn’t have to pay him, and it would be like he’s retired. They’d love that. He’s insisting on showing up. They are saying “fine, but you’ll be a backup” and he’s throwing a hissy fit. The Packers are saying “you have a contract with us that we want you to honor. If you want to play, it’ll be with us.” And he wants to be cut loose. Why does he deserve that? He has no leverage, other than using fan goodwill and the media to make it look like he’s the victim. And that’s BS.

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