I wonder if Joba Chamberlain’s perceived value is higher than his actual value right now? Would the Yankees benefit from dealing him, possibly in a deal for an established top-line starter (like Roy Halladay)?
My own thoughts? I think so.
I wonder if Joba Chamberlain’s perceived value is higher than his actual value right now? Would the Yankees benefit from dealing him, possibly in a deal for an established top-line starter (like Roy Halladay)?
My own thoughts? I think so.
After not making the move for santana, I don’t know how you’re even questioning not giving up the farm for the best pitcher in baseball.
I’m just glad it didn’t happen. Because Joba + Montero + Jackson would have been a good offer to get the best pitcher in baseball who plays in another division… at next year’s trade deadline.
By: mike on July 31, 2009
at 7:08 pm
I’d trade Joba in deal for Halladay, but Joba, Montero and Jackson for a 32 year old pitcher who will demand a fortune is insane.
By: Nephtuli on August 2, 2009
at 9:42 pm
Now, I admit that the Mets ended up fleecing the Twins, but it’s kind of besides the point.
You can’t possibly think that not trading for Johan was the right move at the time. Just remember what Yankee fans were thinking when Santana was on the line. That Cabrera, Tabata, and Chamberlain/Kennedy (who were touted at the same level behind Hughes at the time, if you recall) was too much for Santana. The thinking is nuts. Because the Yankees are built to win now. It was the first sane thing I’ve heard Michael Kay say in years.
If you’re the Yankees, you go out and get the best pitcher in baseball. Especially if you the bigger cost is in hitters and not pitchers. Period, end of story. Especially once the biggest divisional competition gets V-Mart.
I’ll turn this around and pretend the Blue Jays are the Yankees: If you were to ask me if I thought giving up Ricky Romero, a JP Arencibia or Brian Dopirak-type prospect, and Adam Lind for two years of Roy Halladay, putting me as a lock to be the WS favorite this year and next for my aging roster, it’s a no-brainer. I’d want my team to jump on that in a heartbeat. Especially if the team I follow has a lot of payroll coming off in the next couple of years. Further, you completely discount having the two first round picks that come if he doesn’t sign an extension.
Yes, Halladay is 32 right now. But you’re not trading for Doc to sign from 34 through his 39. You’re trading for Doc to make you the WS favorite for his 32 and 33 years plus the draft picks (which, if the farm system is as good as you believe it to be, you are going to assume are worth plenty). And if Doc’s proven anything, it’s an ability to incredibly durable. The guy has more complete games than most divisions in baseball over the last couple of years! You can’t just look at age as a number. I’d rather have a 34 year-old Doc than a younger Josh Beckett, AJ Burnett or CC Sabathia (to name a few), given their respective pitching styles, mechanics and injury histories. The styles is critical for the new Yankee Stadium, where routine pop flies to right field go yard. That Halladay is one of the most extreme, pitch-to-contact groundball pitchers in baseball should not be lost on Yankee fans.
Some thoughts on the prospects:
Montero – still really young and, from what I’ve read, he has a very dubious future as a catcher over the long-term, given his size and defensive abilities. So then he needs to learn to play first base, which reduces his value monumentally. That being said, his AA numbers (which are the only ones that matter as the biggest adjustment hitters make comes at the AA level) are good over a limited number of games. Still way too early to tell anything, especially if his defensive upside is as a DH for a team that needs that spot to rest its vets.
Jackson – strikes out a TON and has an OPS that’s nothing to write home about. Toolsy outfielders like him that strike out a lot that have MLB potential are a-dime-a-dozen. Most don’t pan out.
Chamberlain – very good, though very inconsistent as a starter. Also a possible headcase.
By: mike on August 3, 2009
at 10:15 pm