Heroes – Volume II, Chapter 11 (Powerless)

Man, I thought we were so right, for just a second, when Maya got shot.  That was fun.  Damn.  And no tears spilled for Nicki.

Just wondering, before we really get into it, how long can a person be dead and still be brought back to life with Claire/Adam’s blood?  I mean, basically, nobody is ever really killed off on this show.  Odds that within the first 15 minutes of the Volume III premiere, Nathan is taken to the hospital, pronounced dead, gets an infusion of Peter’s blood, and wakes up?  Someone just has to remind oblivious/naive Peter that he can do that.

Anyway, on to this week’s “Finale,” in no particular order.

Watching the scene in the basement of the company, when the vial with the virus was falling, my wife kept saying “stop time, just stop time.”  I’m not sure a) Peter realizes he can, yet or b) Hiro knew it was falling.  Although, when Hiro was talking to Adam, and she was saying “stop time, take the virus and kill him” I was kinda with her.  When Hiro decides to stop time and when not seems a little arbitrary.  Although, Hiro’s way of avenging his father was awesome.  Better than killing Adam.

We’ve discussed before the fact that it would seem Linderman and Angela were, in some way, working in line with Adam’s agenda, which Nathan actually called her out on.  It would also seem that her claims to reform were a ruse.  She’s clearly still involved with the company, and we still don’t know what her power is.

Who shot Nathan?  My first guess was Noah Bennett, but I don’t know if he had enough time to get from LA to Odessa.  I guess it depends on how quickly they called the press conference.

I guess HRG is back with the company, which is good.  They are sorta bringing everything full circle to where it was at the beginning of the series: HRG with Company, company bad, Sylar powerful and evil, etc.

Which brings me to my next point: I love Sylar.  He’s evil, but he’s smart.  This show needs a good villian.  It’s kind of what was lacking, I think.  And he’s pure evil, which is good.  Adam could have been a good villain, but they didn’t flesh him out.  Plus, he’s not really powerful on the Sylar/Peter level.

One thing I would love to see in Volume III is a little evolution/maturity for Peter.  Enough of the loving, trusting sap.  Peter was kickass five years in the future.  He was hardened, he had full control of his powers, knew what they were and how to use them.  That’s awesome Peter.  We’ve had two chapters of Peter following people, needing Nathan to talk him down from something or save him in some way, discovering his powers but not really knowing what he can do.  I’ve had enough of that.  I want some growth for Peter.  Sylar needs a foil, and the only one who that can be is Peter.  Peter has to step up to be as strong as Sylar, in terms of fortitute, not just abilities.  Right now, it’s no contest.

One last thing I noticed and really liked: the password to Bob’s (who can turn things into gold) computer is Midas.

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16 responses to “Heroes – Volume II, Chapter 11 (Powerless)

  1. On the point with Peter using his powers to stop time, we see him with Hiro. Not so much stopping time but not being affected by it by Hiro. The question my friend had was how was Hiro able to jump out and back in of stopped time to catch Peter off guard?

    As for Nathan, if he was infused with Adam’s blood and Noah with Claire’s blood, what are the side effects? Are they now both invunerable?

    As for Sylar, yes he’s great to watch but they need to up the ante with a bigger baddie or have Sylar lose his place as the main villian.

  2. Not so much stopping time but not being affected by it by Hiro.

    I think it’s clear at this point that Peter has the same power as Hiro, and if he knew it, could stop time himself.

    The question my friend had was how was Hiro able to jump out and back in of stopped time to catch Peter off guard?

    Evidently, his powers of space and time can be separated. He can stop time, and move around within that construct once time is stopped. He likely “jumped” to somewhere else nearby, likely where he was able to see Peter, and jumped back, keeping time stopped the whole time.

  3. We got our first glimpses of Future Peter and Hiro. Hiro locking Adam in the coffin was uncharacteristically cruel and Peter was completely in control of his powers and knew exactly what he wanted. Of course he’s still clueless, but he single handedly broke into the Company’s most protected area without any trouble at all. I think the next Peter-Sylar fight is going to be much better than the last one.

    If Nathan does die, I can envision Peter and Sylar working together to take out the Company. Sylar was pretty upset when he found out he was injected by the Company and Peter will have a lot of motivation for revenge.

    About the use of powers in the last episode: I have a whole bunch of question. Why didn’t Peter just phase through the safe door instead of pulling off? Why didn’t Parkman’s power work on Peter? How did Elle not stop powerless Sylar?

    If Noah and Nathan are invulnerable now, so is Maya. So let’s hope not.

  4. Why didn’t Peter just phase through the safe door instead of pulling off?

    I thought about this too. The only thing I can come up with is that he doesn’t know all of his powers and how best to use them yet. Adam told him to pull off the door, so he did, because he knew he could do that. He’s only phased through matter once, by accident. He doesn’t realize he can do that yet.

    How did Elle not stop powerless Sylar?

    She badly injured him. He was able to get up and run away.

    Why didn’t Parkman’s power work on Peter?

    Good question. The only answer I can think of is the same reason Hiro’s doesn’t. Peter having the power means people can’t use it on him.

  5. On one of my episode review, I proposed a Heroes smackdown between Peter and Parkman. Since Parkman had increased his power of influence, he could catch Peter off guard. However, Peter was able to absorb Parkman’s power and attack back with the same force.

    Also, Peter has yet to master his powers to use more than one at a time. So, depending on the heros or villians, he might not be able to stand up to a gang beating.

  6. He’s only phased through matter once, by accident. He doesn’t realize he can do that yet.

    Peter used his phasing power to get himself and Adam out of the Company’s jail. So he clearly knows how to use the power.

    She badly injured him. He was able to get up and run away.

    I’ll be modeh on Elle.

    Good question. The only answer I can think of is the same reason Hiro’s doesn’t. Peter having the power means people can’t use it on him.

    Two problems with that theory. First, Parkman’s power can clearly be used on someone who already has that power. Parkman’s father used it on Matt and Matt then imprisoned his father using the same power. And Peter doesn’t even know how to use the power, while Maury was pretty much an expert.

    Also Sylar used his telokenisis on Peter, so people can use their powers on Peter.

    I think Hiro’s power works differently. He can stop time from moving forward, but is capable of working outside of time. Anyone who has that power is also capable of working outside of time once time is stopped. So Hiro’s power is two-fold: he can stop time, and he can function outside of it. Peter automatically does the latter whenever time is stopped, but he doesn’t understand how to stop time yet. So when Hiro stopped time, it didn’t affect Peter.

    But Parkman’s power is nothing like that. So I don’t get it.

  7. Also, Peter has yet to master his powers to use more than one at a time. So, depending on the heros or villians, he might not be able to stand up to a gang beating.

    Even Future Peter never used two powers at once. I’m not Peter can use more than one power at a time.

  8. Peter used his phasing power to get himself and Adam out of the Company’s jail. So he clearly knows how to use the power.

    That’s a good point. I guess he just didn’t think of it, because Adam told him to take off the door.

    The difference between Sylar’s using telekenesis on Peter and Hiro/Matt is that Sylar’s is a physical power. But your point is well taken about Parkman and his father and using the ability on someone who has the ability.

  9. I think we can safely say that Peter isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed right now. Sylar’s smarts and deviousness puts him ahead of Peter.

    I mean Peter wasn’t sure he could pull the door off. He was debating whether to try. Yet, he could have just walked right through it.

  10. Guys, from a TV-viewing perspective, don’t you think it’s a little more satisfying to watch Peter use his strength to rip the safe door door open than to watch him just walk right through it?

    I think the answer is really that simple.

  11. Of course it makes for better visuals, but ‘Tuli and I are geeks….we like our TV accurate and making sense.

  12. I think the answer is really that simple.

    Well duh, but if that was the answer to everything we wouldn’t talk about it.

  13. Here’s another question. Why did Nathan make it sound like he ran for Congress decades ago? Remember he won handily in NY. While I don’t think most people in the US know our Congressman, he was unique in that he ended up in the hospital and never took his seat. You’d expect that to make CNN, right?

    Why don’t more people know who he is?

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